MMGN Pokemon Tournament

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Hello MMGN. Recently I've been playing around with a little program called Pokemon Online, not a very new program, a lot of have probably seen it, used it, or do so regularly. But basically, I am going to be running a Pokemon Tournament for MMGN and streaming it, anyone can enter, you don't need a DS, or any of those other things people can apparently use to play games or something I heard about one time.

 

How is this going to work?

  • Anyone who wants to enter must PM me with their interest
  • They must PM me their ideal playing time
  • Depending on the number of people entered and average chosen time, I will draw up a ladder with a date
  • There will be a thread posted with the final ladder and information once it is all sorted out

 

Battle Structure

  • The battle will be one round.
  • If you lose you're out.
  • Basic elimination, we keep going until there's only one left

 

The Rules

We're going to be using a common set of rules for professional battles by Smogon.com which they call clauses. They are as follows.

Evasion Clause

Moves that boost evasion (i.e. Double Team and Minimize) are not allowed.

Freeze Clause

Two or more Pokemon per team cannot be frozen at any given time. (e.g. If one of your opponents Pokemon is frozen, you cannot freeze another until they are thawed out)

Sleep Clause

The sleep clause is essentially the same at the freeze clause, although self inflicted sleep does not count. e.g. If your opponent puts one of your Pokemon to sleep, using Rest straight after won't disqualify him

OHKO Clause

Just don't do it, not allowed. Banned. These are moves like Horn Drill and Fissure.

Species Clause

No two Pokemon of the same Pokedex number on any given team. e.g. You can't have two Blastoises, but you can have a Blastoise and Wartortle.

Self KO Clause

If any Pokemon KO's itself which in turns ends the match, that counts as a loss, so don't try and be sneaky and use a Selfdestruct for a last minute victory.

Item Clause

No two Pokemon on the same team can hold identical iteam. e.g. You can't give every Pokemon on your team Leftovers

 

Basic rules, simple enough to understand, right? Any further questions, just ask me, or ask someone in the comments. Now for some more information, we're using the stock standard list for banned Pokemon. Why are they banned? Because they can imbalance a battle greatly due to being overpowered or having airtight strategies. I'm going to be using the Smogon.com 5th Gen list of Ubers, so you might notice some changes if you're familiar with competitive battling.

Banned Pokemon

Arceus - All forms

Blaziken

Darkrai

Deoxys - All forms

Dialga

Excadrill

Garchomp

Giratina - All forms

Groudon

Ho-Oh

Kyogre

Lugia

Manaphy

Mewtwo

Palkia

Rayquaza 

Reshiram

Shaymin - Sky Forme

Thundurus

Zekrom

Wobbuffet / Wynaut

 

Show up with any of those in your party and it's immediate game over

 

Now for the fun part, WHY OH WHY WOULD I WANT TO TAKE PART IN THIS KERO?! There's prizes of course! And don't ever doubt me again.

1st Prize - Pikachu Kigu (Full body pajamas)

2nd Prize - A Pikachu Beanie, it's got the ears and the face and it's awesome

3rd Prize - A Pokemon Plush.

BONUS PRIZE - If you can make through the entire tournament undefeated and win, you will get a copy of Pokemon Black/White 2.

 

Fun stuff is over, go PM, post, whatever, express interest. But one more thing.

"KERO I ALREADY HAVE A DS WHY WOULD I WANT TO DO THIS"

Some of us don't have DS's, so suck it up, you go play DS and we'll sit here in our program and win prizes, suckers.

 

HAPPY BATTLING!

 

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Blog written by: Kerosanak 70175 Kudos 02/05/2012

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Things you will need.

pokemon-online.eu/... - Download the Battling Client from here

www.smogon.com - They will have alllllll of your information needs.
Can my brother enter through me? He loves that crap, but refuses to make an account here.

OHKO refers to moves like Fissure and Horn Drill, right? Damn evasion clause :(
You... unbelivable bastard [Rage] I WANT THAT POKEMON PLUSH, BUT I NEED TO GRIND TERA~! [Rage]
The more the merrier, feel free to sign him up through you and let him know about it.

Yeah, I should edit that in now, knew I forgot something [MOG]
Sounds fun.. I better practice [Derp]
Clauses and the fact that Pokemon can be banned is lame. I get the legends, but the rest? Eh, this is why I hate competitive battling.

Anyways, I downloaded the program. I shall be looking into it tonight!

Matteh said: Clauses and the fact that Pokemon can be banned is lame. I get the legends, but the rest? Eh, this is why I hate competitive battling.
Anyways, I downloaded the program. I shall be looking into it tonight!



It's because they have high base stats, so you may as well just have them in your team otherwise you're at a huge disadvantage.

I'll be playing!
Too OP :P

It's an attempt to make the battling more balanced and fun rather than sweep an entire team with one Pokemon.

But if this is successful enough I'll probably organise some more speciality tournaments. Like All baby Pokemon, only non-evolved Pokemon, Legendary only battles, Double battles. So on and so forth.
Just about all the banned Pokémon are legendaries anyway. I think Blaziken's only there because it gets Speed Boost as a dreamworld ability, which is imba considering how it already has a decent attack stat.

Clauses encourage strategy beyond LOL PUT EVERYTHING TO SLEEP. Speaking of which, you can't use Rest and switch out to protect your other Pokeys from being targeted by sleep, can you?
Also, there's no move that guarantees freeze, is there? That's just luck of the draw, so you can't really police that clause. Unless PO has some kind of system in place that stops a second Pokey from getting frozen.
I believe Sleep Clause only applies to offensive sleep modifiers, like Spore.

And I'm pretty sure PO has a system. NetBattle did.
God, I so want to enter but hate the serious business side of Pokemanz. [Shifty]
I'm pretty sure it has a built in system yeah. If you break a clause it's insta-loss. I was thinking about the freeze thing either with it having no guaranteed freeze hax. Unless there's a gen 5 move that does it I don't know about it.

However it plays out, this is basically just testing the waters to see how we start out, things can be changed and so on if we keep doing more.


EDIT: Just enter Kenni, I'm probably gonna get knocked out quick because I'm craptacular at predicting and the metagame in general [Shifty]
Oh well, clause or no clause, banned or non-banned, it shall still be fun! Now, I've never actually used this PO thing, I'm assuming I pick a starter and train it up like that, just like the games themselves?

Can I view articles on the mobile site?

Kerosanak said: EDIT: Just enter Kenni, I'm probably gonna get knocked out quick because I'm craptacular at predicting and the metagame in general

Hmmmm... I'll enter but dunno if I can dedicate some time to this. :P

Matteh said: Oh well, clause or no clause, banned or non-banned, it shall still be fun! Now, I've never actually used this PO thing, I'm assuming I pick a starter and train it up like that, just like the games themselves?
Can I view articles on the mobile site?



You can build your level 100 team from the get go. It's just a battle simulator not a full game. Think of it as kind of like a save editor. You pick your Pokemon, their attacks, stats, level, natures, held items and jump straight into fighting.
I'm thinking about putting together a special sand team.
I have a weather team, but I'm not saying which :P
@Kerosanak - Oh that's awesome! I shall make a few teams tonight(if I get time). :D

P.S. Weater teams are awesome. [Derp]
What? I can't use my DS after spending 6 months just to train my team? -_-
*note to self choose a weater team*
You can use your DS if you want, but there's no way to join this particular comp with it lol.
get rid of item clause imo

it's pretty pointless, and it's not even a smogon clause lol
It's not Smogon's own standard clause, but it's a Nintendo clause.
Boozer is pointless too [MOG]

Always wanted to try PO, guess Ill give it a shot (*)
You better put Wobbuffet in your banned list.
Everything is up for change still until we get all the players sorted and organised, I might amend it some when the actual time comes closer, but for now I'm just gonna leave it as is.

EDIT: I didn't even notice he wasn't in there, I copy and pasted it straight off without checking it :P thanks Toki (*)
Wait..do you have to start from scratch or you can use a team you already have? So if I make a team tomorrow and get experience I can still use them in this battle? :O
No need for training, with the program, you use a Team builder to just start with lvl 100's and you pick what moves you want them to have, and what items they will hold, their nature, so on and so forth. Look at www.smogon.com they have a few guides around for building a team.

There's no actual other Pokemon element to this besides battling, no training or adventuring or things of that sort.
Ok cool thanks :)
Don't get rid of item clause, wtf? That would be so dumb.
So.... Scizor is legal yes? [MOG]
Yessir.
no one uses item clause. ever. it serves absolutely no purpose whatsoever and doesn't help to balance the metagame or reduce luck in any shape or form. it doesn't even make things more fun, just slightly more frustrating when making a team and you need to use an inferior item because another pokemon is already holding it.

so it's pointless.

also saying it's a nintendo rule is a silly argument, considering the op essentially states that this tourney will run with 'standard' smogon rules, not nintendo rules.

"common set of rules for professional battles by Smogon.com"

i.e standard
The rules sound tough to remember :D
Crap. Can't think of teams. It's been so long since I had to do this. >.<

It's 6v6, right?
I might give my ol' Johto team a whirl. I haven't played through a Pokey game in quite a while. But damn your evasion clause; I love my minimising Blissey :(

Matteh said: Crap. Can't think of teams. It's been so long since I had to do this. >.<
It's 6v6, right?



Yessir.


Silence said: I might give my ol' Johto team a whirl. I haven't played through a Pokey game in quite a while. But damn your evasion clause; I love my minimising Blissey



Dat Ultra high HP with minimize X_X haha.
OooOo killer prizes....

*Contemplates entry*

Kerosanak said: Dat Ultra high HP with minimize haha.


Means nothing against a No-Guarded Machamp :P
I made a team full of randoms this morning. Bring it on. (evil)
Bah I don't want to have to choose pokemons. I guess I'll just find a random number generator and get them all at random. Randomness for the wins. [MOG]
the clauses sound pretty stupid, evasion increase and inflicted decrease are part of the game and there are even pokemon with passive abilities that use that to their advantage. ohko moves are also a part of the game, they have a bad hit chance anyway so if your pokemon get hit by it then its just bad luck or your pokemon is so slow its begging to get hit by horn drill. how about a sand attack, that'll solve all your problems. but then thats banned too. after reading the clauses it seems like some list of things people lost to in real tournaments and felt like since they lost the other person that beat them must be hacking or cheating or whatever they want to call it. everything in those clauses is a big part of the game and there are so many ways to counter them as well. telling people they cant use a move or something could essentially destroy their entire team and strategy. which also means that all the time and hard work they put into creating that team and strategies was wasted. i personally dont even use legendaries as a principle of almost all of them are very over powered in at least one or two areas of pokemon pvp and that my team consisting of non legendary anything can be just as good. and you cant "freeze" another pokemon if its already frozen? wtf is that crap? as far as i know there are maybe 2 moves in pokemon that have a 100% to freeze no matter what maybe not even 2. freeze is a chance side effect from most ice based moves just as burned is a chance side effect from most fire based moves. thats like saying your ice type pokemon better not have any ice type moves buddy or your out of here. i love pokemon and i've been playing it since gbc red and blue versions and im still playing the crap out of the series. seeing rules like this makes it feel like any strategy you had is getting thrown out the window and you might as well just have all your damn pokemon use tackle the whole match.

I typed all of this because i feel that these kind of rules limit the quality and variety of matches and battles pokemon can do.
lol @ crying about standard competitive Pokemon rules.

Only one I don't agree with is the item clause, Smogon doesn't use it. But meh, I can live with it.
That's just how the competitive side of any game is. Yu-Gi-Oh, Brawl, and many more have banlists and custom rules because certain aspects of the games are too overpowered, and can trump nigh on any strategy except for one designed to counter that and that alone. The clauses actually encourage variety.

What's the other major Pokey Online server? I'm pretty sure they use the item clause. At least, they did last time I played.
I just tried Pokemon Online, I dont like it lulz

Its terrible (evil) It keeps freezing :'@ and I dont like how battle works

/whinges

*but stills enter tournament for lulz*

MMGN Pokemon Tournament
what anime is that gif from? :O
As far as I'm aware, those are the built in clauses for Pokemon Online, the item clause can be removed still, seeing as it's so unpopular with the people who have entered so far.

But as for the other ones, built in, so there's not much we can do.
I'm pretty sure everything can be turned on and off.
I'm making a server for us this week, so I'll go through the option when it's up and have a look and I'll make the thread for the whole shabang and we'll find a ruleset that pleases the majority. Which will probably be everything but the item clause at this point.

q-Firzenion-p said: what anime is that gif from?


Higurashi no Naku Koro ni MMGN Pokemon Tournament
I am interested in this. Do I have to PM you?
Nope, consider yourself entered.
Awesssssome.

Also:

"They must PM me their ideal playing time"

Any time after 7:30 PM is gud for me.

I could most likely do before as well, but yeah.

MMGN Pokemon Tournament
It's looking to be around that time so far for now, so you lucked out haha.
nononono, if it's around 7:30 pm, then that's fantastic (for me). :P
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